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	<title>Comments on: Scoble completely missed the point on Rapleaf</title>
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		<title>By: The Moms World - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts from Moms - Powered by SocialRank</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17799</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scoble completely missed the point on Rapleaf [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rapleaf wants your email address at aoortic! dot com</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17753</link>
		<dc:creator>Rapleaf wants your email address at aoortic! dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Judi Sohn says I totally missed the point here and links to responses from Rapleaf to Stefanie&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Salesforce + Facebook = Potentially Lethal! &#124; notes from across the pond</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17751</link>
		<dc:creator>Salesforce + Facebook = Potentially Lethal! &#124; notes from across the pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may have been able to douse the flames this time, with a little help from Judi Sohn, but it still raises uncomfortable questions for users of social networks and by extension [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] may have been able to douse the flames this time, with a little help from Judi Sohn, but it still raises uncomfortable questions for users of social networks and by extension [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marketonomy</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17744</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketonomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>RapLeaf: Social Media&#8217;s Trojan Horse&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I’ve been watching the furor over the RapLeaf controversy for the past couple of days, really struggling over whether or not to weigh in. If you’ve already been following the controversy, drop down to the next subhead, “The RapLeaf Problem”&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RapLeaf: Social Media’s Trojan Horse - MotiveLab - Social Marketing Group</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17743</link>
		<dc:creator>RapLeaf: Social Media’s Trojan Horse - MotiveLab - Social Marketing Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is not the selling of email addresses and the scary threat of more spam. Judi Sohn effectively extinguished that flaming chorus . My concern also isn’t solely centered on what Sohn properly criticizes—the mass accumulation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The dangers of posting pictures from a camping trip &#171; Kambel Ramble</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17741</link>
		<dc:creator>The dangers of posting pictures from a camping trip &#171; Kambel Ramble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sent out a link on his twitter feed to an article by Judi Sohn who was criticizing one of his posts. Reading these articles made me aware of a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sent out a link on his twitter feed to an article by Judi Sohn who was criticizing one of his posts. Reading these articles made me aware of a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How To Create Anti-Social Networks &#124; How To Split An Atom</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17739</link>
		<dc:creator>How To Create Anti-Social Networks &#124; How To Split An Atom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Judi Sohn kicks it off, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rapleaf wants your email address &#171; Scobleizer</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17736</link>
		<dc:creator>Rapleaf wants your email address &#171; Scobleizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Judi Sohn says I totally missed the point here and links to responses from Rapleaf to Stefanie&#8217;s post.  Filed under: Upscoop, Rapleaf, Facebook, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Judi Sohn</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17735</link>
		<dc:creator>Judi Sohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points, Tish. 

We are the ones who are putting this information &quot;out there.&quot; If we don&#039;t want to be marketed based on that information, then I don&#039;t think we can&#039;t blame those companies that are simply compiling and packaging information that is already public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, Tish. </p>
<p>We are the ones who are putting this information &#8220;out there.&#8221; If we don&#8217;t want to be marketed based on that information, then I don&#8217;t think we can&#8217;t blame those companies that are simply compiling and packaging information that is already public.</p>
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		<title>By: Tish Grier</title>
		<link>http://www.judisohn.com/2007/09/scoble_completely_missed_the_point_on_rapleaf/comment-page-1/#comment-17734</link>
		<dc:creator>Tish Grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Judy...I&#039;ve been following the Rapleaf stuff for the past couple of days....

Rapleaf&#039;s only part of the problem--there&#039;s also the idea of &quot;lifestreams&quot; (as Steve Rubel wrote about)

and there have been other marketing related services that have been gathering info and selling it for awhile.  Back in December I wrote about Umbria&#039;s &quot;Umbria Connect&quot; program, which was/is filtering blogs, gathering up the urls, and then selling the urls (in lots of 25) to marketers. You can check it out here:  http://www.umbrialistens.com/products/connect.php

So, what we&#039;re seeing with Rapleaf and others is addressing the needs and desires of marketers--which then, in many ways, impacts our privacy.  Because the competition for customers is fierce, and because there&#039;s massive fear of life online (connected to loss of brand control) marketers want to go deeper into our online lives...the rhetoric being to serve us better....

but is that really what&#039;s going on?  or is there something else to all of it?  

maybe there is.  

Yet perhaps we should think more about the &quot;lifestreams&quot; children might be creating online, just as much as we are concerned about our adult &quot;lifestreams&quot;.  They&#039;re more vulnerable than us in so many ways.

Marketers will get our information from loads and loads of places--some companies are going to make it easier for them to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Judy&#8230;I&#8217;ve been following the Rapleaf stuff for the past couple of days&#8230;.</p>
<p>Rapleaf&#8217;s only part of the problem&#8211;there&#8217;s also the idea of &#8220;lifestreams&#8221; (as Steve Rubel wrote about)</p>
<p>and there have been other marketing related services that have been gathering info and selling it for awhile.  Back in December I wrote about Umbria&#8217;s &#8220;Umbria Connect&#8221; program, which was/is filtering blogs, gathering up the urls, and then selling the urls (in lots of 25) to marketers. You can check it out here:  <a href="http://www.umbrialistens.com/products/connect.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.umbrialistens.com/products/connect.php</a></p>
<p>So, what we&#8217;re seeing with Rapleaf and others is addressing the needs and desires of marketers&#8211;which then, in many ways, impacts our privacy.  Because the competition for customers is fierce, and because there&#8217;s massive fear of life online (connected to loss of brand control) marketers want to go deeper into our online lives&#8230;the rhetoric being to serve us better&#8230;.</p>
<p>but is that really what&#8217;s going on?  or is there something else to all of it?  </p>
<p>maybe there is.  </p>
<p>Yet perhaps we should think more about the &#8220;lifestreams&#8221; children might be creating online, just as much as we are concerned about our adult &#8220;lifestreams&#8221;.  They&#8217;re more vulnerable than us in so many ways.</p>
<p>Marketers will get our information from loads and loads of places&#8211;some companies are going to make it easier for them to get it.</p>
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